And Malayalam Will Live Forever, or at least the debate on it !

----- Original Message -----
From: Sunil Kumar
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 12:45 PM
Subject: Malayalam digits

Hi,

Whatever you say, these original malayalam digits and alphabets are
encoded by UNICODE Consortiaum and then it will be available to all of
you, like english digits (in computer and related fileds) Whether you
use it or not, up to you. The facility is agreed and available in
unicode malayalam fonts.

Regards,

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From: "Harris"
Subject: Re: SUCH STRONG SENTIMENTS ON malayalam digts
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:37:58 +0300

How could one feel like throwing up? We know hieroglyphics (I am not
sure of the spelling) was used by the Egyptians, same way these funny
looking characters were used by Malayalis (only those who knew to read
& write); it is part of our history and should be preserved as
something that was in vogue long ago. No need to throw up; that is a
very violent reaction. Om Shanti, Shanti!

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----- Original Message -----
From: "hari"
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Again on Malayalam

Dear Nam,

Teaching malayalam to our children is not adding any
value to their lifes. They should know only to
communicate in Malayalam that is much more than
enough.

If we give importance to Malayam, the coming
generation will face only problems to get job. This
trend is already there because 75% of malayalees who
studied in Malayalam medium in the last 20 years are
working as drivers/tea boys and others in less
salaried categories.

Now a days - professional college admission on merit
basis is secured by the students from the english
medium schools only.

Malayalam language, Government school (malayam medium
students) are reaching no where now a days.

the person who wrote this to you would have admitted
his kids in English medium even in a very high
standard school and he would tell us that he is
outside India, hence he is doing so.

This is all good only for talking:- Our children
should study only study in english medium and attain
the best result in life.

Best regars
Hari

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----- Original Message -----

From: "Roshan"
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Again on Malayalam

malayalathil parayaan parayunnathu thanne ENGLISH ill
aanallo maashe

dayavaayi marupadi aykaathe erikaan sramikkuka, chumma
ezhuthiyathaanu.

oru malayaale

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----- Original Message -----
From: Abdul Latheef
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Again on Malayalam

Jacob

You are correct, whenever we open Malayalam channel we have to suffer
such "Komalies". I think they are playing a big role to Mock
Malayalam.

Be proud with our mother tong and teach our kids and compel them to
use our language in our home.

Abdullatheef

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Karunakaran"
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: On Malayalam Again / Four Indians among Singapore's Richie Rich /

All,

One should be proud of saying that I am a Malayalee. However, one who is
qualified to say this should always be upholding the culture, identity,
root and history. What is wrong in making awareness of our past and
learning something out of it. As far as Malayalam digits are concerned,
it is not a decade old history. It was in existence 40 years back . It
was widely used in school text books and in print media.

Thanks

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----- Original Message -----

From: prem
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: Again on Malayalam

kollam resamulla marupadi....nammal malayaleegal inganaya, enthum
vilichu parayum pakshe nadappakkilla. english nodu ithra pucham
parayunn nammal pongacham parayan aadhyam upayogikunnathu english
thanne. ithu thanne nammude shapamum athe pole menmayum.

ennal nammukku eppolatheyum pole jada kanichu jeevikkam. mattullavare
kaliyakkiyum, anugarichum, sontham jeevitham namukku pazhakki kalayam.
nammude tv sponsered programms thanne ithinte nalloru udaharanamaanu.
sheri ennal veendum kaanam.

Prem

Again on Malayalam

From: Jacob Joseph
To: naamhs@gmail.com
Date: Aug 28, 2006 2:39 PM

I dont understand why everyone is so much hesitated to teach Malayalam
to the next generation. It is our culture, our identity and more over
without Malayalam, how can we known as Malayalees? Now a days it is
just a fashion to mix English with Malayalam while talking. It is
very sad to know many of us forgot several appropriate words in our
mother toungue.

Anyhow, wonderful. Let us keep on encouraging our friends to use
malayalam while talking to a Malayalee and pass it on the proper way
to the next generation.

On Malayalam Again / Four Indians among Singapore's Richie Rich /

----- Original Message -----
From: Suresh Babu
To: Nam Sahasra
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:15 AM
Subject: SUCH STRONG SENTIMENTS ON malayalam digts

Nam

I feel we should not only learn the Malayalam digits, but promote it
in every possible forum.
It helps us retain our identity. . Secondly so far I have not heard
anything whereby humanity lost
something by learning some thing new !!!

Suresh

----- Original Message -----
From: jpnair
To: nam
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: SUCH STRONG SENTIMENTS ON malayalam digts

APPANU PRATAM ILLENGIL AYALVAASI APPAN.DEEPASTAMBHAM
MAHASHCHARYAM,NAMUKKUM KITTANAM PANAM.

JP

Thanks a ton for the compliment about Malayalam: " the language is all right."
In this Atham naal, those people in the Heaven, Thunjan, Kunjan,
Asaan, Vallathol,
Ponkunnam, Basheer,Thakazhi,Vyloppilly,Idassery,Changampuzha,Vayalar,Devarajan,OV
Vijayan,Ayyappa Panikker, and Prem Nazir Bhai will now be
happy....Because
if somebody comes after and say, "No, No...not only the digits, but
the languages also
be thrown away...who the devil wants these satans...this language...

God save, all of the above gentlemen are happy because now they are
saved and are
in Heavens. Those English,French,Spanish, German and other people are ignorant
for they had unnecessarly translated these satans' works...who wants
after all these
rubbish wastes....Onam, that we can have, because,we can sell it...All
saleable things
are good...

It is History, which can also be thrown away, that all those Lords
Sarvasree Al Buqerque
and Vasco-da-Gama had brought Royal Messages from Emperor Emmannuel of Portugal
to Samorin of Kozhikode and Maharaja of Cochin, for the reason that
those Messages
were in Arabic. One Mr. Mammaali was there with these Lords to
translate the Portuguese
Kings' Arabic letter to Malayali Rajahs. And it was Mr. Mammali who
had helped to show
routes to Kozhikode and Cochin. At first Marakkar family fled to
Kozhikode, fought there
with Gamaaeos, then all things happened.

Regards to the generosity of complimenting Malayalam, "It is all right"

The Qeustion to be never asked: "Am I alright?"
The Question to be always asked: "All of you what nonsense?

Sometimes we feel somebody give us a knife to kill ourselves. So that
we too can go
Heavens!

Goode bye...Sweet Dreams..

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Four Indians among Singapore's Richie Rich

NEW DELHI: Here's another example of the growing wealth among the
non-resident Indians. And no, these are not the already well known
names like Lakshmi Mittal, Swraj Paul and Indra Nooyi, but relatively
lesser known Indians who have struck gold in the eatern part of the
world.

Four NRIs — Murli Kewalram Chanrai, Mustaq Ahmad, Sudhir Gupta and
Kartar Singh Thakral — figure in the latest Forbes list of Singapore's
Top 40 Rich List.

The four Indian expats are collectively worth $1.54 billion, which
accounts for more than 5% of the combined net worth of $28 billion
accumulated by Singapore's 40 richest people.

Chanrai — ranked the richest Indian in Singapore — is the head of the
$3 billion Kewalram Chanrai Group, while Ahmad is the owner of the
hugely popular Mustafa Centre in Little India. Gupta, on the other
hand, is a tyre tycoon who made it big is Russia, while and Thakral is
into textiles and IT peripherals.

The 83-year-old Chanrai was placed seventh among the list of
Singapore's Riche Rich with a net worth of $880 million. His Kewalram
Chanrai Group is held privately by overseas Indian family trusts and
is part of the 150-year-old Chanrai empire.

From a humble beginning in trading business in India and Nigeria in
1860, the family business has grown into a conglomerate with business
spanning across textiles, commodities, international trade, IT and
real estate spanning over 45 countries.

Next in line is 47-year-old Sudhir Gupta, who has been ranked as
Singapore's 13th richest person with a net worth of $320 million.

Gupta, a Singapore citizen and a PhD in agricultural chemistry from
Russia, started with a tyre company in Moscow. After acquiring a Dutch
company, he formed Amtel-Vredestein, a tyre company which was listed
on London Stock Exchange last year.

Kartar Singh Thakral, who has been ranked 25th with a net worth of
$175 million, joined his family trading business in 1949.

His empire spans across various businesses, including the
Singapore-listed Thakral Corp, that distributes technology gears for
products like iPods in China and India. The Thakral Group made a
humble begining with 'Punjab Store' in Bangkok in 1905.

Mustaq Ahmad, who happens to be the last among the four Indians at the
27th position with a net worth of $165 million, is the owner of one of
Singapore's famous landmarks — the Mustafa Centre. Fifty five-year-old
Ahmad runs a bustling store in Singapore's Little India called Mustafa
Centre, which is stuffed with more than 150,000 items ranging from
beds to spices. The store was opened in 1971.

Fwd: SUCH STRONG SENTIMENTS ON malayalam digts

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: baby
Date: Aug 24, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: SUCH STRONG SENTIMENTS ON malayalam digts
To: nam < naamhs@gmail.com>

hi

it is absolutely essential that we learn our mother tongue and our customs. we should also learn Esperanto to communicate with other people whose language is different from our mother tongue. by this way, we will retain our identity and still part of the global village. we will need to learn only two languages to communicate with the whole world and the world will be a better place to live.

good luck.

baby

On 8/21/06, nam <naamhs@gmail.com> wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Job
Date: Aug 21, 2006 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: malayalam digts
To: nam < naamhs@gmail.com>

Nam,
Who the devil in this world wants these Malayalam digits. Malayalam
digits are an unwanted addition to the already confused world. None
should learn it or promote it. The language is alright , not the
digits. Even the Arabs are slowly realizing their folly and follow
normal digits. While they write text from right to left they are at a
loss as to how the digits are written.
One look at the malayalam digits, I left like throwing up. Please
prevent it from bing propagated.
Best regards
Job



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From: iqbal
To: nam < naamhs@gmail.com>
Date: Aug 19, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: malayalam digts

What changes and why?

It is a pity that Malayalis themselves are ignorant of their own
numerical system.
Some people will gaze at the calendar published by one well known Naturopathy
Centere. But they have done it for their commercial ends. Different matter.

When I was moving around as a rough or tough rebel, I used to write these
numerals. But nobody took it serious.

The solemn prayer is this Malayalam language be saved for it's existence
for reasons well known to the world because of Malayalis themselves.
We will speak aloud the Globalisation is taking it's lead to kill
languages of other
countries, and the regional or sublatern languages. It is true with
Tamil or Bengali
speaking people. But there is no scope of the onslaught of Globalisation on
Malayalam, because Malayalis themselves will take up the suicidor's role!

Iqbal

SUCH STRONG SENTIMENTS ON malayalam digts

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Job
Date: Aug 21, 2006 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: malayalam digts
To: nam <naamhs@gmail.com>

Nam,
Who the devil in this world wants these Malayalam digits. Malayalam
digits are an unwanted addition to the already confused world. None
should learn it or promote it. The language is alright , not the
digits. Even the Arabs are slowly realizing their folly and follow
normal digits. While they write text from right to left they are at a
loss as to how the digits are written.
One look at the malayalam digits, I left like throwing up. Please
prevent it from bing propagated.
Best regards
Job

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From: iqbal
To: nam <naamhs@gmail.com>
Date: Aug 19, 2006 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: malayalam digts

What changes and why?

It is a pity that Malayalis themselves are ignorant of their own
numerical system.
Some people will gaze at the calendar published by one well known Naturopathy
Centere. But they have done it for their commercial ends. Different matter.

When I was moving around as a rough or tough rebel, I used to write these
numerals. But nobody took it serious.

The solemn prayer is this Malayalam language be saved for it's existence
for reasons well known to the world because of Malayalis themselves.
We will speak aloud the Globalisation is taking it's lead to kill
languages of other
countries, and the regional or sublatern languages. It is true with
Tamil or Bengali
speaking people. But there is no scope of the onslaught of Globalisation on
Malayalam, because Malayalis themselves will take up the suicidor's role!

Iqbal

malayalam digts

These are the current malayalam digts/numerals

These have undergone some changes in the recent past

Unicode developers are still discussing various options

HAPPY MALAYALAM NEW YEAR

Malayalam era

Malayalam Era or Kollavarsham is a solar Sideral calendar used in the the state of Kerala in South India.

Origin

Almost all of the regions kerala used to the Kali yuga before the acceptance of Kollavarsham.

The start of the Malayalam Era has been attributed to many origins.

According to Tharisapalli plates the era was stated by Nestorian merchants who settled in KorukeNi kollam, near to the present Kollam. The other popular notion according to Hermann Gundert, it coordinated with consecration of a shiva temple during the reign of Udaya Marthanda Varma. Another theory is that Kollavarsham was started by the Saint Sankaracharya in 825 AD.


Calendar

The Malayalam year starts in the month of August,usually falling on the 16th or 17th of August.

Months in Malayalam Era	Gregorian Calendar	Tamil calendar	Saka era	Hijra Era
chingam	August- september	Aavani-Purattasi	SRavaN- bhadrapada	Rajab - Sha`ban
kanni	September-October	Purattasi-Aippasi	Bhadrapada - aSvina	Sha`ban - Ramadan
thulAm	October-November	Aippasi - Karthigai	aSvina - Kartika	Ramadan - Shawwal
vrushichikam	November-December	Karthigai - Margazhi	Kartika - Agrahayana	Shawwal - Dhu l-Qa`da
Dhanu	December-January	Margazhi - Thai	Agrahayana - Pausa	Dhu l-Qa`da - Dhu l-Hijja
makaram	January-February	Thai - Maasi	Pausa - Magha	Dhu l-Hijja - Muharram
kumBham	February-March	Maasi - Panguni	Magha - Phalguna	Muharram - Safar
mEnam	March-April	Panguni - Chithtrai	Phalguna - chaitra	Safar - Rabi`al-Awwal
mEdam	April-May	Chithtrai - Vaikasi	Chaitra - VaiSakha	Rabi`al-Awwal - Rabi`ath-Thani
Edavam	May-June	Vaikasi- Aani	Vaisakha - JyaisTha	Rabi`ath-Thani - Jumada l-Ula
midhunam	June-July	Aani - Aadi	JyaisTha - AsaDa	Jumada l-Ula - Jumada t-Tania
Karkidakam	July-August	Aadi - Aavani	AsaDa - Sravana	Jumada t-Tania - Rajab

Like the months above, there are 27 stars starting from Aswathi and ending in Revathi. The 365 days of the year is divided into a group of 14 days called Njattuvela, each one bearing the name of a star.

Boatman saves lives of 200 kids, gets killed / malayalee mobile / happy independence day / RIGHT TO INFORMATION ACT, FULL TEXT

Boatman saves lives of 200 kids, gets killed

Khammam (AP): A boatman in Bhadrachalam division of the Godavari lost
his life when he got electrocuted after he saved 200 school children
and was on his way to rescue some more.

Edukondalu, the boatman, went to a school in his boat to rescue 200
children trapped in Sasi Vihar, a private school, due to flash floods.
He rescued all of them and as he went in search of other stranded
people, he came into contact with a live power cable and got
electrocuted. His body was found on Friday.

Edukondalu supported his aged parents, wife and two children and the
poor family is now shattered.

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For an immediate and unconditional cease-fire



International appeal



Today, July 30th, another massacre was committed in Lebanon: More than

sixty civilians, among them 37 children, were killed by Israeli bombs

while they were sleeping in shelters in the village of Qana. They died

not very far away from the mass grave holding the bodies of 106

civilians burned by a previous Israeli attack in April 1996 inside a

shelter provided by a UN battalion



Reacting to this terrible news, the only sane decision that needs to

be made immediately is that of a ceasefire.



A ceasefire would allow for humanitarian relief to reach the innocent

victims, for the bodies to be buried instead of being eaten by the

dogs, and for all the underlying problems to be negotiated and

eventually solved. More victims can only produce more hatred.



In the last few days, Lebanon has been promised by the EU, the UK and

the US help in rebuilding its infrastructure and humanitarian aid to

assist the eight hundred thousand internally displaced persons and

"humanitarian corridors", but they stopped short of demanding a

ceasefire, which encouraged Israel to continue with its "mission" of

unilaterally enforcing the resolution to disarm Hezbollah. With that

same logic, Hezbollah could argue it has a mission to enforce the many

UN Security Council resolutions demanding Israel to withdraw from the

occupied Palestinian territories and to implement the right of return

of the Palestinian refugees.



On July 27, Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon said that Israel had

given civilians ample time to leave southern Lebanon. "All those now

in south Lebanon are terrorists who are related in some way to

Hezbollah," he said, according to the BBC. The same strategy is in

these days deployed in the Gaza Strip where the populations of

neighborhoods and refugee camps are asked to leave their homes. This

comes down to blatant collective punishment of entire populations.



The escalating violence in Lebanon can not be solved unilaterally with

self-proclaimed righteousness by any party. Peace is negotiated

between enemies, not with friends. And the first step to any

negotiation is a ceasefire. Or is it that every child has to die so

that they do not grow into "terrorists"?



A year ago, the UK Prime Minister championed the cause of including in

the UN mandate the "responsibility to protect populations from

genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity".

Yet the UN, the European Union, The United States and the United

Kingdom have failed in their responsibility to protect the Lebanese

and Palestinian children. Or even to clearly condemn the latest

Israeli criminal acts.



The international civil society and social movements are raising their

voice and mobilizing throughout the world not only to express their

indefectible solidarity with the Lebanese people, but also to build a

huge international barrier against the global war of re-colonization

of the world.

We are demanding

• An immediate and unconditional cease-fire, in Lebanon as well as in

the Palestinian Occupied Territories!

• The implementation of full sovereignty to Lebanon and the national

rights of the Palestinian people!

• No NATO forces on the Lebanese territory!

We support the call of the international solidarity delegation in

Lebanon for an international day of protest and solidarity on August

12th.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

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From: Narendran, Sailan Palliyil Date: Aug 5, 2006 11:07 AM
Subject: FW: How to save papaya falling from tree

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